tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780881198603853530.post4961302072665668649..comments2024-02-08T19:00:06.509+05:30Comments on Aerial View : Episode VII - OROP: A summing up as per an IPS retd LawyerAerial Viewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17115360943663046368noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780881198603853530.post-33450052185209314082015-06-01T22:51:37.633+05:302015-06-01T22:51:37.633+05:30By these judicial prounouncrments and logic ,mili...By these judicial prounouncrments and logic ,military pensioners were deprived of legitimate pensions ( by 50 -80 %) for several decades .balahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915831413555890997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780881198603853530.post-28358562479549276132015-06-01T02:33:27.091+05:302015-06-01T02:33:27.091+05:30Just a opinion. It appears that there is great rel...Just a opinion. It appears that there is great reluctance on the part of the bureaucracy to grant this to the Armed forces. It could be because they feel it is not sustainable in the long run since other groups would also start asking for it. They may be advising their political masters accordingly. The push can only come by politicising the issue which is already happening in my opinion. Doling out goodies like NFU and grade pay 10000 at 17 years can only be done for a limited no. of elites(read IAS). There needs to be a total rethink on manpower hiring, use and release at various age points with parallel absorption into other governmental organisations etc. For Officers short service is the way to go. anandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09973758757432965904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780881198603853530.post-13862462509551934852015-05-31T14:03:35.996+05:302015-05-31T14:03:35.996+05:30Mr Jaitley is a lawyer of repute and standing , in...Mr Jaitley is a lawyer of repute and standing , in addition to being a former law minister of India he also is FM in present cabinet . He has time and again asserted that OROP is a commitment of NDA Govt to veterans. Do we take it that he was promising frivolously ? There is a law Minister and a bevy of legal advisers in the present Govt . Do we take it when DM told the nation that military pension hence OROP is legally valid proposition was an undeliberated hence an irresponsible assertion . Do we take it that Hon'ble PM was also afflicted by same ignorance . No Sir, The political executive seems to have been unable to penetrate self serving and flawed logic of Bureaucratic layer of the Govt . I would like to understand When NFFU and MACP were not granted to Def Forces , where was this principle of equality . When in 1973 the higher pension rates of soldiers were reduced ,and civil servants pension rates augmented ,why was this relativity disturbed . I am sure pre 1973 law was not infirm or wrong. I would like to ask when salaries of Colonel. Brigadier and Maj Generals Rank were reduced with flawed logic not disturbing the relativities between uniformed services disregarding existing protocols and precedence of armed forces officers in fourth pay commision , why did it have to be weighed against the status of Soldiers only. Mr Dhamija - your assertions and logic are myopic and self serving. If the Govt finds it beyond its intellectual power to grant the veterans their due then I WOULD EARNESTLY RECOMMEND TO THE GOVT TO APPOINT A TRIBUNAL AT THE BEHEST THE PRESIDENT , C-IN-C and identify the fraud and systematic sabotage of pay, status and social prestige of the Soldiers of the land and correct the wrong doings.<br />Satyamev Jayate . May the Truth prevail . May God endow 56" chest to my political Leadership. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11638851784825777501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780881198603853530.post-25579793720220097152015-05-31T08:31:36.912+05:302015-05-31T08:31:36.912+05:30@Veteran:"..Officers too getting the Pension ...@Veteran:"<i>..Officers too getting the Pension of the IAS guy who becomes JS in 17 years.."</i><br /><br />+1.<br /><br />Couldn't agree more.<br /><br />Unfortunately, NFFU is not applicable to civilian employees other than Group A Officers. In any case OROP, if legally applicable, should apply to civilian employees other than 'Group 'A' Officers.<br /><br />But, if Group 'A' Officers too get OROP, Armed Forces Officers should also get the benefit of NFFU alongside OROP for fair parity with civilian Officers.<br /><br />On top of that, extra compensation to ESM for shorter service careers of service personnel needs to be awarded.corona8https://www.blogger.com/profile/14443791458911191943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780881198603853530.post-65581392571254139132015-05-30T21:18:00.279+05:302015-05-30T21:18:00.279+05:30We have no grudge the civilians getting OROP .
But...We have no grudge the civilians getting OROP .<br />But we want our Officers too getting the Pension of the IAS guy who becomes JS in 17 years (NFFU) and proportionately Scaled for the last man (The Jawan). There ends the matter .Veteranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04218473788437574134noreply@blogger.com