Broadcast List Message: Army Clarifies malicious reports against the 7th
Pay Commission
ADGPI – Indian Army: 7TH CENTRAL PAY COMMISSION VISITS ARMY
IN LADAKH.
We have noticed a number of
malicious and ill-informed comments being circulated on Social Media with
regard to the visit of Justice Mathur, Chairman, 7th Central Pay
Commission and other members of the Commission to Ladakh.
The Army wishes to clarify
that Justice Mathur, Chairman 7th Central Pay Commission and other
members of the Commission are taking out very valuable time from their busy
schedule to visit forward areas where our soldiers are serving in extremely
difficult terrain, at our request.
Justice Mathur and members of
the Commission would be visiting the Northern Glacier (Siachen), Kargil, Mushkoh Valley, Chusul apart from Leh, where
they would be staying with various Army detachments.
We are grateful to the 7th
Pay Commission Team for personally experiencing the difficulties being faced by
the Army deployed in Ladakh.
Courtesy: Air Force Pay Commission Cell
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Sir, probably these rumours stem from the fact that in past too, such visits have happened and unfortunately it seems these did not result into much benefits todefence personnel. Hopefully, this time it will be different and not just a standard double the allowance thing. Moreever, siachen & high altitude and such allowances affect a very small number of defence personnel for which big noise is made by some civilian friends. This perception also needs to be dispelled.
ReplyDelete@aaa,
ReplyDeleteRumours stem from facts? Now isn't that a Spoonerism or malapropism?
Visits have happened but ultimately what came up from the Pay Commissions is something which the Govt undid.
Walk my talk?
Example 1: nowhere in the 4 CPC Report or Resolution 9 E is there mention of a minimum pay for each rank. But CDA (O) decided it.
Example 2: nowhere is there mention of the fact that Rank Pay deduction being challenged in the Report or in the Resolution but accepted as Holy truth by the CGDA and used by MoD in the affidavits.
Example 3: MoD states that MSP replaces Rank Pay. It is nowhere in the 6 CPC Report or in the Resolution of August 2008.
So, why not read the facts as they are and separate them from facts - after all Armed Forces are above pettiness, parochialism, caste or religion?
@Taaza Khabar,
ReplyDeleteIt was never my intention to say that pay commissions are not doing their bit but their bit has not been enough. What about 6 cpc degrading status of defence officers. Why not same allowance as for civilians in say NE states. Are we not aware that civilians get SDA @12.5 % for serving in NE but defence personnel do not. What about instructor allowance which is pittance of about 1800 vis a vis 30% basic for civilians. While we can blame defence pay cells for not projecting some of these issues but as a cpc it should be within their realm to consider the same on their own. What about leave rules, civilians get to avail any accumulated earned leave while in defence though 2 months leave is authorised however people do not get it due to commitments.moreover if one saves more than 300 days u can not avail the extra leave nor do u get encashment for the same. What about temprorary duty when moving out for training or exercises with troops etc. The list will be long. It is also not my case that the ministry or financial authority do not play spoilsport but it is the cpc which should make their recommendations abundantly clear to avoid any mischief by anyone in its implementation. I hope the issue of clear recommendations by cpc specially for defence forces needs to be emphasised. Hopefully the visit to siachen by cpc will have the desired effect this time.
Sir,
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@Taaza Khabar: "...Walk my talk?...";
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, which was the entity that, without rhyme or reason, decided that rank pay for time-scale ranks would be governed by the post/vacancy held and not the rank and pay scale given to an Officer, thus totally distorting the very definition of Rank Pay as documented?
Sir,
ReplyDeleteWith due apologies, there is no recommendation in the 4 CPC report"decided that rank pay for time-scale ranks would be governed by the post/vacancy held....."
There is an illustration in Para 28.113 for time scale Lt Col but again no mention of post/vacancy held.
Sir, that illustration by itself, if it specified a Maj's rank pay for a Lt Col(TS), I used "if" because I do not have access to the full report, would form the basis, or an excuse, for the Government to regulate rank pay for TS ranks accordingly. Perhaps the report of V CPC was even more direct in wrongly tying the post/establishment vacancy, rather than the rank and pay-scale, with rank-pay.
DeleteEven by giving that illustration, the IV CPC report was in direct conflict and in contradiction of the basis and definition of rank pay.
A CPC was not to re-define rank-pay. A substantive rank and the corresponding pay-scale was given to Majors who had been passed over permanently for promotion. Rank-Pay being part and parcel of the rank and its pay scale, should have been given as well, especially wef 01 Jan 96 when a Lt Col rank-specific pay scale was given to Officers with Lt Col (TS) rank.
Additionally, the Government had issued a letter to this effect in 2000 but was never implemented. There is no record or information whether the services HQs followed it up. It would appear that IV CPC illustration had contributed most significantly to the entire controversy.
148.2. Our recommendations. We have deliberated over the manner in which service pays should be fixed and in order to ensure equality of treatment suggest that the method of fixation of pay on revision recommended for civilian employees may also be adopted for service personnel. For Service Officers upto the rank of Brigadier who are to be brought on to regular scales of pay from the existing integrated scale, we suggest that for fixation of pay the existing rank pay maybe be taken into account but pay in revised scales be fixed after deducting the revised amount of rank pay.
DeleteIllustration No.1
1. Rank Major
2. Pay + Rank pay (Rs 3400 + 600) Rs 4000
3. Stage in the scale 1st stage
4. DA at index avg 1510 + interim relief Rs 5680
5. Existing emoluments Rs 9680
6. Add 20% of Pay +Rank pay Rs 800
7. Total Rs 10480
8. Pay after deducting revised Rs 9280
Rank pay of Rs 1200
9. Pay in Revised scale Rs 11600 + Rs 1200 Rank Pay
Illustration No 2
1. Rank Lt Colonel
2. Pay + Rank pay (Rs 4500 + 800) Rs 5300
3. Stage in the scale 7th stage
4. DA at index avg 1510 + interim relief Rs 6513
5. Existing emoluments Rs 11813
6. Add 20% of Pay +Rank pay Rs 1060
7. Total Rs 12873
8. Pay after deducting revised Rs 1173
Rank pay of Rs 1600
9. Pay in Revised scale Rs 13900 + Rs 1600 Rank Pay
Illustration No.3
1. Rank Colonel
2. Pay + Rank pay (Rs 5100 + 1000) Rs 6100
3. Stage in the scale 5th stage
4. DA at index avg 1510 + interim relief Rs 7370
5. Existing emoluments Rs 13470
6. Add 20% of Pay +Rank pay Rs 1220
7. Total Rs 14690
8. Pay after deducting revised Rs 12690
Rank pay of Rs 2000
9. Pay in Revised scale Rs 15550 + Rs 2000 Rank Pay
Recommendations of The Fifth Central Pay Commission
DeletePart VII Section II – Pay Scales Armed Forces
Para 145.6 – The Fourth CPC took note of the conditions of service determining the compensation package and due consideration was given to the truncated career, rigid discipline, code, frequent moves etc…… As regards officers, the Fourth CPC felt that the pay structure should be such that it made the armed forces attractive as a career and provided a reasonable pay progression to the officers of the services.
Para 147 – Pay Structure for Officers
147.28 – Comparison with Civilians – In order to properly appreciate the demands relating to pay structure, we thought it worthwhile to go into the principles adopted by earlier Pay Commissions with regard to formulation of pay scales of service officers. At the of the Post-Way Pay Committee, Service pays generally equalled civilian class-I pays and a specific equation was established with officers of the Indian Police Service. The Raghuramaiah Committee which was appointed after the Second Pay Commission continued the accepted parallel between Defence Service officers and class I service of the Central Government, particularly the IPS. While stating that the IPS was perhaps the closest civilian analogue to officers of the infantry, the Third CPC, considering the demand of the Armed Forces to be equated to the IAS, noted the multifunctional character of the officer cadre and diversity of functions of various occupational groups and felt that to equate them with a single service would be a defective approach. In their opinion, a comparison with the conglomerate of class-I Civil Services was more reasonable. The Fourth CPC, accepting the organisational structure and requirements of services are different, provided compensation in the nature of pay scales itself.
147.35. Keeping the above considerations in view and in the light of the abolition of the rank of 2nd Lieutenant proposed by us, we recommend the following pay scales for service officers upto the rank of Brigadier:
Pay Scales
Lieutenant 8250-300-10050
Captain 9600-300-11400
Major 11600-325-14850
Lt. Colonel 13500-400-17 100
Colonel 15100-450-17350
Brigadier 15350-450-17600
In addition, the following rank pay may be granted:
Rank Pay (pm)
Captain 400
Major 1200
Lt. Col. 1600
Col. 2000
Brig. 2400
147.37. As regards the pay scales at higher levels, in view of the existing relativities we suggest that the Major Generals may be granted the pay scale of 18400-5o0-22400 and Lieutenant Generals and equivalent be granted the pay scale of Rs.22400-525-24500. For Vice Chiefs and Army Commander and equivalent we recommend a pay of Rs.26000 (fixed) per month.
147.38. As regards the pay of Service Chiefs, we recommend a revised pay of Rs.30000 (fixed) corresponding to their existing scale of Rs.9,000 (fixed).
148.1 Background. We have made recommendations with regard to fixation of pay in the proposed scales in respect of civilian employees in the relevant chapter The method of pay fixation on revision of pay adopted by earlier Pay Commissions for civilians and service personnel was more or less identical. The Fourth CPC while following a similar dispensation for civilian and Service Personnel had given specific illustrations of the manner in which pay for service personnel should be fixed especially in the context of the introduction of integrated pay scales for Service Officers,
CHAPTER 28
DeleteARMED FORCES PERSONNEL
Officers
28.12. We have given careful consideration to the joint proposals of the services headquarters. We appreciate that the organisation structure and requirements of the services are different. We also think that the pay structure should be such that it makes armed forces attractive as a career and provides a reasonable pay progression to the officers of the services. Taking all factors into account, we recommend the following integrated pay scale for all officers upto the rank of Brigadier and equivalent in the three services: -
Rs. 2300-100-4200EB-100-5000
28.13. We also recommend that, in addition to pay in the above integrated scale, the following rank pays may be given to officers in the Army and their equivalents in the other services: -
Rank Amount of rank pay
(Rs. p.m.)
1. Captain & equivalent Rs 200
2. Major & equivalent Rs 400
3. Lt Col (Selection) & equivalent Rs 600
4. Colonel & equivalent Rs 800
5. Brigadier & equivalent Rs 1200
In Navy, a Captain, on completion of three years service in that rank, will draw the rank pay of Rs 1200 p.m. recommended for Brigadier.
28.15. The integrated pay scale recommended by us covers a span of 28 years. It is necessary to ensure that the selection process for promotion at all levels is effectively objective. There should be periodic reviews for those constituting the non-select stream so that such of them who can no longer be useful are not allowed to continue in the integrated pay scale upto the prescribed ages of retirement. There has to be selectivity, and we have suggested an efficiency bar after 20 years of service. We recommend that the government should review the existing rules relating to selection procedure and premature retirement of officers so that at this stage officer who do not make the grade are not continued in service.
Fixation of pay in the proposed scales
28.113. In Chapter 30 we have recommended the method for fixation of pay in the proposed scales for civilian employees, we recommend that the same method may be adopted for fixation of pay of armed forces personnel also. Since rank pay is a separate element for officers upto the rank of Brigadier and equivalent, the same may be taken into account while fixing pay in the integrated scale of pay recommended by us. An illustration showing the pay in the integrated scale of pay for army officers of different ranks is given in Annexe 28.1.
Chapter 30.2. We have given careful consideration to all these suggestions. Taking all factors into account we recommend that pay of employees may be fixed in the proposed scales of pay in the following manner: -
Delete(i) For all employees, an amount representing 20 per cent of basic pay in the existing scale subject to a minimum of Rs 50/- may be added to the “existing emoluments.” Pay may thereafter be fixed in the proposed scale at the stage next above the emoluments thus computed. If the minimum of the proposed scale is more than the amount so arrived at, pay may be fixed at the minimum of the proposed scale. For this purpose the term “existing emoluments” will include the following: -
(a) basic pay in the existing scale,
(b) dearness pay, additional dearness allowance, and ad hoc dearness allowance appropriate to the basic pay admissible at index average 608 (1960 = 100), and
(c) amounts of first and second instalments of interim relief admissible on the basic pay referred to in (a) above
(ii) In the case of employees who are in receipt of special pay in addition to pay in existing scale and where the existing scale with special pay has been replaced by a scale of pay without any special pay, pay may be fixed in the proposed scale in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 30.2. (i) above except that in such cases the term “existing emoluments” will comprise the following: -
(a) basic pay in the existing scale,
(b) existing amount of special pay,
(c) dearness pay, additional dearness allowance, and ad hoc dearness allowance appropriate to the basic pay admissible at index average 608 under the relevant orders, and
(d) amounts of first and second instalments of interim relief admissible on the basic pay and special pay under relevant orders.
(iii) In the case of employees who are in receipt of special pay in addition to pay in existing scales and in whose case special pay continues with the proposed scale of pay either at the same rate or at a different rate, the pay in the proposed scale may be fixed in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 30.2. (i) after excluding the existing special pay and the amounts admissible thereon such as dearness pay, additional dearness allowance and ad hoc dearness allowance. In such cases special pay at the new rate may be drawn in addition to pay in the proposed scale.: -
(iv) In the case of medical officers who are in receipt of non-practising allowance, pay may be fixed in the proposed scale in accordance with the provisions of paragraph 30.2 (i) above except that in such cases the term existing emoluments will not include non-practising allowance at existing rates and will comprise only the following: -
(a) basic pay in the existing scale,
(b) dearness pay, additional dearness allowance, and ad hoc dearness allowance appropriate to the basic pay admissible at index average 608 under the relevant orders, and
(c) amounts of first and second instalments of interim relief admissible on the basic pay and NPA under relevant orders.
In such cases, NPA at the new rates may be drawn in addition to pay in the proposed scale.
Sir, on a previous occasion also you had made these valuable details available to all readers. I recall providing a link in a comment on a blog to this blog post.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, the subject, raised by readers, of what previous CPCs did or failed to do may not have a direct relevance to your most timely update of a development relating to VII CPC.
They could, perhaps be guided by your example, and obtain information through RTI regarding the specific issues and anomalies affecting them.