Thursday, 4 December 2014

MoF reply to MoD to amend ToR of 7 CPC for considering Cabinet Secretary Report recommendations

Online RTI Request Form Details
DOEXP/R/2014/60541 dated 21 Nov 14

Public Authority Details:-
* Public Authority Department of Expenditure
Personal Details of RTI Applicant:-
* Description of Information Sought

Reference is made to MoD O.M. No. 22(4)/2012-D(Pay/Services) dated 17.10.2014 in reference to MoD ID dated 25.08.2014 for inclusion of pay related issues in the Terms of Reference (ToR) for the 7th Central Pay Commission (CPC) in compliance with the Cabinet Secretary Committee Report 2012 recommending the same.

2. Please provide photocopy of the document issued by MoF, Deptt of Expenditure for inclusion of the said pay related issues in the ToR for consideration of 7th CPC.

* Concerned CPIO Nodal Officer
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Reply to DOEXP/R/2014/60541

F No. 7/1/2014-E.III-A/497
Government of India
Ministry of Finance
Department of Expenditure
North Block, New Delhi
Dated: 28 November, 2014


Sub: Application seeking information under RTI Act, 2005 - regarding


          Please refer to your online RTI application Registration No. DOEXP/R/2014/60541 dated 21.11.2014 on the above named subject.

2.      As desired the copy of the endorsement No. 199786/E.III(A)/2014 dated 19.11.2014 is enclosed herewith.

3.      The Appellate Authority is Shri Amar Nath Singh, Deputy Secretary, Room No. 74-C, North Block, New Delhi. Appeal, if any, may be preferred within 30 days of the receipt of this letter.  

(Manoj Kumar)
Under Secretary & CPIO
Copy to: - SO (RTI) Deptt of Exp
Ministry of Finance
Department of Expenditure
(E.III (A) Branch)

          Ministry of Defence may please refer to their OM No. 22 (4)/2012-(D (Pay/Services) dated 17th October, 2014 regarding taking up pay issues of Defence personnel with the VII Central Pay Commission on the recommendation of the Cabinet Secretary Committee.

2.      The matter has been examined in this Ministry. In this regard, it is observed that individual Ministries/Departments need to take appropriate decision on referring the specific issues pertaining to employees under its administrative control to Seventh Central Pay Commission within the framework of Terms of Reference of VII CPC. In view of this, MoD may take action accordingly and this Ministry may not be involved in this process.

3.      This issues with the approval of JS (Personnel).
(Manoj Kumar)
Under Secretary
Director AG, Ministry of Defence, South Block, New Delhi
MoF (DoE) ID No. 199786/E.III(A)/2014, dated 19/11/2014

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  1. Wow. 7cpc wants these to be referred through MoF. MoF wants concerned ministry to take up case within the TOR of Cpc. By the time these people decide how to refer it to cpc, cpc would have submitted its report. Then it would be referred to 8cpc in 2026. May be this is written in between the lines of committee report(as to how to ghumao it) which these worthy bureaucrats can see but not a common fauji.

  2. Dear Sir,
    Cat is out of the bag. Adieu to NFU. It is for the Chairman COSC and CAS to urgently seek an audience with the RM to resolve the issue. The alacrity with which the MoF (DoE) acted to refer the pending anomalies of 6 CPC to & Chairman CPC is found totally lacking in the issues concerning serving armed forces personnel. Though the outcome cannot be guessed, the question of amendment to ToR issued by the MoF appears to be the moot point. This is the height of red tapism irrespective of who is the PM/RM and which party is ruling the country! With strong rumours on retrograde step of reducing retirement age of Central Govt employees and some of FM's hints, "Acche Din" is very much in the pipeline! Jai ho faujis!

  3. Sir, it is hoped that MoD will now take up case directly with 7cpc for inclusion of these issues in TOR. Also, why cannot these issues be considered as part of existing TOR of cpc? These issues also form part of pay and service conditions which a cpc is mandated to look into. Why specific reference to these is required in TOR?. TOR are broad based in nature and anything and everything regarding pay, service conditions etc can be considered by cpc on its own based on representation from services. Notwithstanding the above, it is surprising that MoF has returned the case based on direction of JS only. Mind u these recommendations are of CoS in which Secy Def Fin would have been a member. So it becomes clear that CoS report was an eyewash as it first did not give recommendations on these issues in the garb of referring it to cpc and now MoF does not want it to be referred it to cpc?

    1. If one followed the process till now, Services HQ placed these recommendations of Cab Sec Committee Report before the 7 CPC in the presentation on 28 Aug 14. Service HQ were requested to have it referred through the administrative Ministry i.e. MoD Army PCC wrote to MoD for inclusion of consideration of the recommendations by amendment to the ToR.

      My opinion and inference, unqualified & unsolicited, is that MoD's letter to 7 CPC was adequate and I am unaware why Army PCC wanted the ToR amended.

      The impugned Report does not become an eye wash but ensures that serving personnel will lose 7 years of monetary benefits, if 7 CPC recommends and Govt accepts inclusion of these in its final report.