F No. 22/6/2015 – D (PCC)
Ministry of Defence
D – Pay Commission Cell
Room No. 215, B Wing, Sena Bhawan
New Delhi, Dated 24th June 2015
Subject:
Comments/clarifications on the issues raised by Associations/Federations
representing Defence Civilian Employees of Indian Army and Indian Navy
Reference Secretary’s DO letter No. 7CPC/182/MoD (Army)/2015 dated 13th
May 2015 on the above subject.
2. Comments on the six issues raised in the
main letter are enclosed. As regards information in respect of the Annexures
attached with the letter, the same is being compiled and will be sent shortly.
Sd/-------------
(R Pandyan)
Deputy Secretary (PCC+MIS)
Tele: 2301 3416
Sh D K Rai, Director
7th Central Pay
Commission
Chhatrapati Shivaji Bhawan
B-14/A, Qutub
Institutional Area
New Delhi – 110 016
COMMENTS ON ISSUES RAISED IN
D.
O. LETTER DATED 13TH MAY, 2015
Para No.
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ISSUES
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MoD COMMENT
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3
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Through
one of the proposals in the JSM, the Services have sought the upgradation of
posts of eight, five and three Principal Staff Officers (PSOs) in the Army,
Air Force and Navy respectively to the Apex level. The Services have
contended that PSOs head independent verticals of operations, human resource
management, logistics, training, policy systems and are responsible for
conceiving, planning, and executing policies that are crucial for shaping the
future of the three Services on these issues. Ministry of Defence may like to
furnish its considered views with regard to the upgradation request.
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The
logic given in JSM in para 4.2.70 is number of years taken for IAS and IPS to
get apex level and Defence Services officers to get to the same level. They
have also raised the point of percentage of officers reaching these levels.
The Services within armed forces have totally different service conditions,
promotion and retirement rules vis-à-vis that in the civil organisations and
civil services like IAS and IPS. Hence the logic given in JSM does not hold
for upgrading the posts of PSOs to the Apex level on the basis of other civil
services. Another reason cited in Para 4.2.71 and 4.2.72 is that PSOs head
independent verticals of Operations as well as advisors to the Service Chiefs
which is similar to the work of Secretary. The role of Secretary to the
Government of India is very different than the role of PSOs to Service Chiefs
and they cannot be compared.
Moreover,
at present there are 7 Army Commander posts in the Apex level and the Vice
Chief (total eight) posts (equivalent to Secretary to Government of India) in
the Army, 7 (seven) in Air Force and 5 (five) in Navy. Besides three more
posts each for Army, Air Force and Navy are available in the joint Command.
This has created administrative difficulties in smooth functioning of
Ministry of defence as there are too many officers at the same rank and
proper command, control and administrative structures have got diluted.
Further,
the upgradation of the post should be based on functional requirement and can
be considered separately by the Ministry on its own merit.
In
the light of above, MoD does not support
the proposal given by JSM regarding upgradation of posts of PSOs in Army, Air
Force and Navy to the Apex level.
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4
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The
Services have pointed out that pay upgradation of Artisans has been effected
by the Ministry of Defence in June 2014 whereby revised scales as per Annex
‘C’ have been introduced. The Services are of the view that Sergeant and
equivalent of both Group ‘X’ and ‘Y’ have traditionally drawn higher pay than
Master Craftsman. Hence the unilateral upgradation of Master Craftsman over
Sergeant and above has created an anomaly. Ministry of Defence may like to
apprise the Commission of its views in the matter.
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The
revised pay structure as shown in Annex ‘C’ was granted to the Artisan staff
in June 2010 and not June 2014. The existing Grade Pay structure shown in
Annex ‘C’ is also not correct.
Background
Prior
to 6th CPC, the post of Master Craftsman (MCM) in all the
Government organisations, except Ministry of Railways, was in the scale of Rs
4500-7000 (revised PB-1, GP Rs 2800/-). In the Ministry of Railways the post
of MCM was in the pay scale of Rs 5000-8000 (revised PB-2, GP 4200/-) even
though its promotional post of Chargeman was also in the identical scale. As
such there was demand from the artisan staff of the Defence Establishments
for parity with the Railways.
6th
CPC has recommended future placement of the post of MCM in PB-1 with GP of Rs
2800 in all Government Workshops and merger of MCM of Railways in the pay
scale of Rs 5000-8000 with Chargeman.
However,
recommendation of the 6th CPC on Master Craftsman was referred by
the Government to a Fast Track Committee. On the basis of the recommendation
of the Fast Track Committee, the post of MCM in Defence Establishments was
placed in PB-2 with GP of Rs 4200/- and the artisan staff in the MoD
establishments was re-organised as under: -
Cadre and pay structure prior to 6th CPC
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Cadre and pay structure post 6th CPC
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Post
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Pay Structure
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Post
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Pay Structure
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Skilled
Grade
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Rs 3050-4950
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Skilled
Grade
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PB-1, GP Rs 1900
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Highly Skilled Grade*
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Rs 4000-6000
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Highly skilled grade –II
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PB-1, GP Rs 2400
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Highly skilled grade I
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PB-1, GP Rs 2800
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Master Craftsman
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Rs 4500-7000
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Master Craftsman
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PB-2, GP Rs 4200
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* Post 6th CPC, the posts of Highly Skilled Grade were
bifurcated into Highly Skilled Grade II and Highly Skilled Grade I in the
ratio 50:50
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Examination of the present demand of the Services
Upgradation
of Master Craftsman (MCM) over Sergeant and above: - This point was earlier
raised by the Services. They had recommended enhanced grade pay in respect of
JCOs/ORs (Havildar/equiv – 4200, Nb Sub/equiv – 4600, Subedar/equiv – 4800
and Subedar Major/equiv – 5400) on the ground that certain percentage of UDCs
have been placed in Grade Pay of Rs 4200/- and the Grade Pay of MCM has been
revised to Rs 4200/- The matter was examined in consultation with Defence
(Finance) and proposal of the Services was not agreed to on the ground that
increase of Pay/Grade Pay in respect of one set of employees cannot be cited
as basis for the similar increase in Pay/Grade Pay for other employees
especially where the conditions of services rendered are entirely different
and the services, functions and duties are not comparable. Moreover there
cannot be a comparison between services rendered by civilian employees and
the service rendered by the Armed Forces. In many cases Armed Forces may be
getting more pay scale/grade pay or a higher Pay Band which cannot be a
criteria for upgradation of Pay Band/Grade Pay of civilian officers. This
point, alongwith other pay related issues was also considered by a Committee
headed by Cabinet Secretary. The Committee recommended that pay related
issues may be specifically referred to the next pay commission for its
consideration as the Pay Commission is the expert body set up for this
purpose which can examine these issues in a holistic manner. Government has
accepted these recommendations. The matter has been referred to 7th
CPC on 25.08.2014.
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The
number of defence forces personnel retiring every year is quite large –
around 80, 000. Of these a significant percentage are under the age of 40.
The policy/approach of Ministry regarding possibility of re-employment of
Ex-Servicemen in Non-core activities of Defence Forces, Defence civilian
cadres, Civilian organisations, and DPSU of MoD may be shared with the Pay
Commission
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Policy of Employment of ESM in Non-Core Sectors: As per existing
government policy there is a horizontal reservation for ESM in various
Central Government Departments as per details below. However, reservations
for ESM in these sector are also as per existing policy. Defence forces are
the only users of the out-put of the Non-Core activities.
Existing
reservation:
S No.
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Organisation
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Reservation
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(a)
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Central Government/Ministries/department including Railways
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(a) Group ‘C’ – 10%
(b) Group D – 20%*
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(b)
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Central Para Military Forces
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Upto Asst Commandant – 10%
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(c)
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CPSUs and Banks
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(a) Group C – 14.5%
(b) Group D – 24.5*
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*Group
D has been abolished after 6th CPC.
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As regards resettlement of Ex-Servicemen,
the Commission may be apprised on initiatives taken by DGR for resettlement
of PBORs, particularly NCOs and officers, in particular Short Service
Commissioned (SSC) officers. Data regarding re-employment of PBORs and Officers
by Central, State Government and Private Sectors in the last few years may
also be shared with the Commission. Initiatives regarding skill upgradation
of PBORs especially NCOs and Officers in particular SSC Officers to make them
more employable in private sector may be shared with the Commission.
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Data Regarding Employment
(a) Central Government: DGR has been designated
as the nodal agency for reservation monitoring in August 2014. While DGR has
sought data from all Government agencies, however, only 33% have responded.
The details of ESM employed based on existing reservation policy is given at Appendix ‘A.’
(b) State Government: The existing
reservation policy of various states is given at Appendix ‘B.’ While there is no data available on what is the
actual status of employment of ESM, however, data obtained from various Rajya
Sainik Boards is given at Appendix
‘C.’ Out of a total of 4, 45, 822 ESM registered in these States, only
4,466 are employed by the State Government departments/State PSUs.
(c) DGR: The details of employment and training through
DGR for the last three years as per the data available with DGR are as
follows: -
Details
|
2012
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2013
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2014
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Officers
Placed
|
566
|
511
|
474
|
JCO/OR placed
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1170
|
1732
|
2649
|
Security agencies registered
|
160
|
315
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380
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Security agency guards (contractual)
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37162
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39018
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23495
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ESM employed in coal companies
|
68
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30
|
96
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Widows/Disabled ESM attached in ESM Coal companies
|
78
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51
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36
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Management of CNG in NCR
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26
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15
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62
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COCO Scheme (For BPCL/
IOCL)
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380
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609
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499 (149)
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Issue of eligibility Certificates for allotment of Oil Product
agencies
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148
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149
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65
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Mother Dairy Milk booth/Safal Booth
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140
|
270
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211
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Gopaljee Dairy/Farm Fresh
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-
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58
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05
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Total
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39898
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42758
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27972
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(ii) Training: DGR conducts resettlement training from 15
days to six months for all ranks. The subjects chosen are based on the demand
of the industry and environment. The number of personnel provided training
for past few years is as follows:
Category
|
2012-13
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2013-14
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2014-15 till 31st Dec 14
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Officers
|
748
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562
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517
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JCOs/ORs
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20730
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21991
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22887
|
ESM
|
155
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155
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41
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Total
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21633
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22708
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23445
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(d) Defence Security Corps (DSC): In addition to the
above, a large number of ESM are employed in the DSC. Details of fresh
recruitment in each of the last three years is as follows:
(i) 2012 – 4220 ESM
(ii) 2013 – 4901 ESM
(iii) 2014 – 4498 ESM
2. Recent Initiatives
(a) Reservation in MoD Controlled Organisations like
DRDO, DGQA and Def PSUs. Department of Defence Production (DDP) has issued instructions to
all the Defence PSUs and Ordnance Factories to impart proper training to the
Ex-Servicemen which may help them in building the necessary skill sets so
that such trained ESM may be employed in such organisations against the
stipulated percentage of reservation. Accordingly, DGR has been advised to
coordinate and compile appropriate lists of probable/suitable candidates
retired from Defence indicating their basic data base like their
nativity/residential address/contact number etc and have them sent to DDP. DGR
is actively pursuing the matter with such organisations.
(b) New Avenues of Employment in Government Sector. DGR had forwarded a
concept paper on “Employment of ESM in
Nation Building” to the PMO. One of the proposals for employment was to
involve ESM in Mission Clean Ganga by raising four Territorial Army (TA) Battalions of ESM on the model of
Ecological TA. The proposal is under active consideration. DGR has also
forwarded a fresh proposal to raise ESM manned Disaster Management Battalions
at the State level. If approved, these too will provide ESM jobs close to
home. The model being worked out is the same for Mission Clean Ganga and TA
Battalions.
(c) Preparation for Government Job Exam. A proposal is under
consideration for conducting a pilot training programme to prepare retiring
soldiers and ESM for entrance exams to various Govt/PSUs/Banks/Police
Organisations with an aim to ensure that maximum seats reserved for ESM are
filled up.
(d) MoU with CII. To enhance opportunities for ESM in the
ever growing Corporate sector, an MoU was signed with CII on 19 Sep 14 with
the Hon’ble RM gracing the occasion. While some progress has been made,
however, the lack of incentive for the industry has resulted in a lack of
enthusiasm. To overcome the same, DGR has taken up a case with Hon’ble
Finance Minister wherein a proposal has been mooted for tax credits and
preference in Government procurements for companies that hire a larger
percentage of ESM. If accepted, this will go a long way in motivating the
corporates to employ ESM as is the case in some western countries.
(e) Job Fairs: As part of the MoU with CII, DGR has
formalised the structure and methodology for conducting ‘Job Fairs’ to provide a platform where the industry and
servicemen can meet and suitable employment provided. There is a proposal to organise four Job Fairs on a regional
basis every quarter in consultation with Service Headquarters. The first
such fair was conducted on 6-7 May 15 at the NCC Camp at Army Parade Ground,
Delhi Cantt. Approximately 3000 ESM and over 100 companies attended the fair.
The next fair is being planned in Oct 15 in Mumbai under the Indian Navy.
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One
of the points made in the Addendum to the Joint Services memorandum is that
the Grade Pay for Defence Forces Officers be determined by delinking them
from ranks and linking them to the length of service. Ministry of Defence may
like to furnish its considered views in this regard.
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Grade
Pay concept is related to rank or position occupied in the hierarchy of the
organisation and in Armed Forces it is linked to Command and Control.
Therefore, delinking Grade Pay from the Rank
shall result in various problems. Hence, the proposal is not
recommended.
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The
data on field posting of officers (Lt Col/equivalent, Colonel/equivalent,
Brigadier/equivalent) in the Services (Annexure D) and posting profile of
service personnel in field/peace locations (Annexure E) received vide MoD
letter No. 22/5/2014-D (PCC) dated 12.05.2015 appear to be based on varying
assumptions. It is requested that the data provided be reviewed with a view
to conforming that it is consistent with the classification based on
geographical location approved by MoD. To bring out the facts more clearly
the data on deployment may be provided as per Annex D and E as enclosed.
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Data
on field posting of officers and posting profiles of service personnel in
filed locations: - The requisite information is being obtained from TRIPAS
and the same will be furnished as soon as it is received.
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Appendix ‘A’
0515/DGR/RMC dated Apr 15
Name of organisation
|
Central Govt Depts
|
CPSUs
|
Banks
|
CPMFs
|
Total
|
Total number of organisations/departments
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121
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252
|
27
|
10
|
-
|
Returns received from organisation
|
22
|
81
|
29
|
5
|
-
|
Overall strength
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
13379
|
|
Gp C
|
313
|
284957
|
161951
|
638029
|
|
Gp D
|
3
|
29879
|
72143
|
-
|
|
ESM authorised
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
1338
|
|
Gp C
|
31
|
41319
|
23483
|
19081
|
|
Gp D
|
3
|
7320
|
17675
|
-
|
|
ESM held
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
309
|
|
Gp C
|
11
|
3363
|
8450
|
1658
|
|
Gp D
|
0
|
559
|
11256
|
-
|
|
ESM Deficiency
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
1029
|
|
Gp C
|
20
|
37956
|
15033
|
17423
|
|
Gp D
|
1
|
6761
|
6419
|
|
-
|
Total No. of vacancies in 2014
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
1456
|
|
Gp C
|
146
|
3190
|
25250
|
9188
|
|
Gp D
|
-
|
804
|
8653
|
-
|
|
ESM Authorised vacancy
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
146
|
|
Gp C
|
15
|
461
|
3661
|
919
|
|
Gp D
|
0
|
197
|
2120
|
-
|
|
ESM vacancy reserved
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
135
|
|
Gp C
|
3
|
423
|
3219
|
859
|
|
Gp D
|
0
|
4
|
1904
|
-
|
|
ESM actually filled
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
1
|
|
Gp C
|
0
|
48
|
1330
|
0
|
|
Gp D
|
0
|
5
|
938
|
-
|
|
Shortfall
|
Gp B
|
-
|
-
|
-
|
146
|
146
|
Gp C
|
15
|
415
|
2331
|
918
|
3678
|
Gp D
|
-
|
192
|
1182
|
-
|
1374
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Appendix B
Existing Reservation in State
Governments
S No.
|
State/UT
|
Reservation in State Govt Jobs (%)
|
|
|
Gp A
|
Gp B
|
Gp C
|
Gp D
|
1
|
Andhra Pradesh
|
0
|
0
|
2
|
2
|
2
|
Arunachal Pradesh
|
0
|
0
|
10
|
20
|
3
|
Assam
|
0
|
0
|
2
|
2
|
4
|
Bihar
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
5
|
Chhatisgarh
|
0
|
0
|
10
|
20
|
6
|
Delhi
|
0
|
0
|
10
|
20
|
7
|
Goa
|
0
|
0
|
2
|
2
|
8
|
Gujarat
|
1
|
1
|
10
|
20
|
9
|
Haryana
|
5
|
5
|
14
|
14
|
10
|
Himachal Pradesh
|
15
|
15
|
15
|
15
|
11
|
Jammu and Kashimir
|
0
|
0
|
6
|
6
|
12
|
Jharkhand
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
13
|
Karnataka
|
10
|
10
|
10
|
10
|
14
|
Kerala
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
15
|
Madhya Pradesh
|
0
|
0
|
10
|
20
|
16
|
Maharashtra
|
0
|
0
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
Manipur
|
0
|
2
|
3
|
5
|
18
|
Meghalaya
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
19
|
Mizoram
|
0
|
0
|
10
|
20
|
20
|
Nagaland
|
0
|
0
|
5
|
5
|
21
|
Orissa
|
0
|
3
|
3
|
3
|
22
|
Punjab
|
13
|
13
|
13
|
13
|
23
|
Rajasthan
|
0
|
0
|
12.5
|
13
|
24
|
Sikkim
|
0
|
0
|
2
|
2
|
25
|
Tamil Nadu
|
0
|
0
|
5
|
10
|
26
|
Tripura
|
0
|
0
|
2
|
2
|
27
|
Uttarakhand
|
8
|
8
|
5
|
5
|
28
|
Uttar Pradesh
|
0
|
0
|
5
|
5
|
29
|
West Bengal
|
0
|
0
|
5
|
10
|
30
|
Andaman & Nicobar
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
31
|
Chandigarh
|
13
|
13
|
13
|
13
|
32
|
Puducherry
|
0
|
0
|
10
|
20
|
Appendix C
Zila Sainik Welfare Office-wise Registration of
ESM for Employment
& Placement of Ex-Servicemen as on 31 Dec 2014
S No
|
State/UT
|
No ESM Registration
|
Placement of ESM
|
|
|
Previous
|
New
|
Total
|
State Govt
|
State Govt PSU
|
Total
|
1
|
Andhra Pradesh
|
13250
|
375
|
13625
|
0
|
37
|
56
|
2
|
Arunachal Pradesh
|
94
|
2
|
96
|
19
|
0
|
19
|
3
|
Assam
|
32954
|
875
|
33829
|
344
|
133
|
522
|
4
|
Bihar
|
33608
|
1072
|
34680
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
5
|
Chhatisgarh
|
879
|
79
|
958
|
14
|
2
|
16
|
6
|
Delhi
|
13390
|
2310
|
15700
|
530
|
135
|
1101
|
7
|
Goa
|
844
|
14
|
858
|
3
|
1
|
4
|
8
|
Gujarat
|
3871
|
446
|
4317
|
22
|
0
|
22
|
9
|
Haryana
|
24000
|
901
|
24901
|
443
|
40
|
541
|
10
|
Himachal Pradesh
|
14151
|
673
|
14824
|
149
|
0
|
149
|
11
|
Jammu and Kashimir
|
12943
|
498
|
13441
|
9
|
2
|
11
|
12
|
Jharkhand
|
8114
|
93
|
8207
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
13
|
Karnataka
|
18655
|
690
|
19345
|
50
|
0
|
52
|
14
|
Kerala
|
16436
|
822
|
17258
|
17
|
36
|
53
|
15
|
Madhya Pradesh
|
4788
|
574
|
5362
|
31
|
0
|
32
|
16
|
Maharashtra
|
20220
|
1659
|
21879
|
932
|
25
|
963
|
17
|
Manipur
|
488
|
124
|
612
|
191
|
9
|
217
|
18
|
Meghalaya
|
207
|
23
|
230
|
8
|
0
|
8
|
19
|
Mizoram
|
1086
|
39
|
1125
|
14
|
0
|
14
|
20
|
Nagaland
|
118
|
40
|
158
|
80
|
0
|
110
|
21
|
Orissa
|
18231
|
553
|
18784
|
35
|
50
|
103
|
22
|
Punjab
|
41825
|
1623
|
43448
|
32
|
15
|
111
|
23
|
Rajasthan
|
38308
|
1453
|
39761
|
46
|
246
|
292
|
24
|
Sikkim
|
2
|
9
|
11
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
25
|
Tamil Nadu
|
11749
|
1045
|
12794
|
75
|
0
|
75
|
26
|
Tripura
|
600
|
22
|
622
|
0
|
0
|
1
|
27
|
Uttarakhand
|
13383
|
1433
|
14816
|
4
|
1
|
8
|
28
|
Uttar Pradesh
|
26728
|
641
|
27369
|
22
|
76
|
111
|
29
|
West Bengal
|
50249
|
1119
|
51548
|
287
|
236
|
548
|
30
|
Andaman & Nicobar
|
3
|
5
|
8
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
31
|
Chandigarh
|
68
|
24
|
92
|
0
|
25
|
25
|
32
|
Puducherry
|
330
|
7
|
337
|
0
|
0
|
0
|
33
|
Telangana
|
4682
|
145
|
4827
|
40
|
0
|
105
|
RSB Total
|
426434
|
19388
|
445822
|
3397
|
1069
|
4466
|
