Sunday, 4 January 2015

Was it 80% of OROP or 80% of Satisfaction?

Courtesy Maj S K Jain

Appended below are the exact words spoken by RM on OROP during his interview on Headlines Today, for ready reference. This is a mixture of English and Hindi words. Hindi words in blue for easy identification. Though Maj Jain has taken due care but still there may be some errors. This is part of reply which was given to a question asked by Col Thapar (from 22 minutes into the interview).

Except above, no other statement is available where RM has spoken about the percentage (80%) in relation to OROP. It appears that the words spoken on Headlines Today, are being used by different readers and commentators as per their personal understanding.

It appears he (RM) has talked about "if not 100% satisfaction then 80% or 90% satisfaction" and NOT 80% of OROP as has been stated by many.

"About OROP I think I have just understood exactly what it means. Now the second round which I have started is to identify exact financial implication.  Kai Bar elections mein assurances diye jaaten hain assurances ka detailing aur analysis nahin hota hai. To main uska analysis kar raha hoon

Mai itna aswasta kar sakta hoon mere side se to main full pressure daalne wala hoon or more or less what is acceptable to the armed forces. Why I am saying more or less because nothing is 100% but satisfaction 100% nahin hua to 80% ho sakta hai 90% ho sakta hai. Yahan tak laane ki meri koshish hai ki most of the issues are sorted out, agreed by everyone.

Thode main usme nahin jaaunga jyada details mein Kyonki maine last time economic times mein jo kaha uske upar bhi kai logon ne kuchh comments dal diye without understanding what I was meaning. We cannot express everything in short 20 minutes or 30 minutes interview. What I have in my mind I try to express it maximum but though I am quite articulate I probably was not able to put it in short way.

But I can assure you this much ye issue main jyada din khinch kar nahin jaunga. I will sort it out at the earliest and though I promise for major satisfaction. 100% satisfaction to everyone ye kabhi zindagi mein reality mein aati nahin hai. But jaise mai bola 80 % 90% tak agar satisfaction level le ke jaaun toh that will be good enough solution because from my side I will be always 100% but there are questions raised for various issues some minor corrections minor question marks may remain ultimately. But probably 4 to 8 weeks this should be resolved for once.

Coming out with the comprehensive solution so that next budget ke liye iske liye jaana nahin pade. Uske liye solution aa jaye next budget mein keval paise ke liye jaana pade."


  1. Please clarify whether it is 80-90 % satisfaction of total numbers of pensioners or it is 80-90 %of individual pensioner satisfaction?

    1. Sorry, sir, as the statement was made by the Defence Minister, only he can clarify.

  2. @kain,

    Sir, maybe 80-90% satisfaction is overall satisfaction.

    10-20% not satisfied may be (R) may be

    Like pre-AVSC Maj with 26 years feeling they should get Lt Col or Cols pension and

    Pre-AVSC Lt Cols with 26 years feeling they should get Cols' pension; etc etc.

    Or Maj Gen, Lt Gen and Army Cdr equi feeling they should get higher pension because in 6th CPC there are some Brig & equi getting Rs 67000+8900+6000= Rs 81900 and hence entitled to Rs 40950 as pension whereas Army Cdr gets Rs 40000.

    A look at the soc-called DGL in circulation would reveal the places where some may not be satisfied vis-a-vis their expectations.

  3. Sir ,In this connection I am forwarding a paragraph from an article by Lt Gen Harwant Singh '' The ministry of defence and CGDA etc. are busy working out varying monetary implications for implementing OROP .Did anyone take into account the financial implications when Non-Functional Upgradation was sanctioned for nearly four dozen civil services or when MP's periodically jack up their pay,perks and pensions .So why bargain with the military for what is long overdue to it .The defence minister need look after his charge and not be beguiled by the babus .This article appeared in Indian Defence Review on 01.01.2015.

  4. Sir, There is a saying "anything which cannot measured cannot be managed" A trained engineering mind cannot say 80 or 90%. What is on trial is the RM's/PM's ability to deal with recalcitrant and mutinous bureaucracy The basic question is whose writ runs in MOD - of the elected RM or of a out of sync bureaucracy. What is required to be done is to fix responsibility in the unpardonable and deliberate delay The bureaucracy has to be held accountable and told that they are not dispensers of favour. Nehru, Krishna Menon and Gen PN Thapar paid the price for the 1962 debacle but Shri O Pulla Reddy, ICS went scot-free. When Sam was promoted FM, KB Lal was quick to demand an up-gradation of the post of Def Secy. Today, the common man sees through the skulduggery and chicanery of the Babus of MOD empowered as he is by the instruments like RTI and a free media.