In pursuit of Truth on behalf of Family Pensioners and Veterans for the sacrifices made by them in the service of the Nation
Saturday, 30 July 2016
Wondering what to do about restoration of pro-rata deduction of pension for less than 33 years service?
From Brig Vijay Raheja Signals Corps Veteran
There have been
queries on weightage and also when will orders for arrears on account of
truncated service (i.e. less than 33 years). Please note that 6th CPC removed
weightage and accounted for it while fixing pensions for each rank. Relevant data
extracted from Circular 500 is reproduced below.
Rank >
Subaltern
Captain
Major
Lt Col (TS)
Service Less Than >
28
28
25
28
Max Pension at 33Yrs
>
15465
16145
18205
26265
Rank >
Lt Col
Colonel
Brigadier
Maj Gen
Service Less Than >
26
26
28
29.5
Max Pension at 33Yrs
>
26265
27795
29145
30350
Anyone who had
service less than indicated lost on his pension by a proportionate amount,
which has been restored by the Honourable Supreme Court.
Post HSC orders,
Government of India Ministry of Personnel, PG & Pensions Department of
Pension & Pensioners' Welfare issued orders vide Office Memorandum No. No.
38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 06 April 2016; delinking of revised pension from
qualifying service of 33 years.This was
followed by PCDA (P) Circular C-149, for Civilian Defence pensioners on 08
April 2016 – our Circular is awaited. Affected officers may like to petition
the MOD on this.
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Post Honourable
Supreme Court orders, Government of India Ministry of Personnel, PG &
Pensions Department of Pension & Pensioners' Welfare issued orders vide
Office Memorandum No. No. 38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 06 April 2016; delinking
of revised pension from qualifying service of 33 years.This was followed by PCDA (P) Circular C-149,
for Civilian Defence pensioners on 08 April 2016. After over three months
having elapsed, PCDA Circular for Defence Uniformed Pensioners is awaited. An
early redress of grievance is requested by issue of orders restoring pension.
Sample Grievance
Format
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Ministry/Department
from which Retired
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Office/Organisation
from which retired/retiring
Complainant Category
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I had filed under public grievance last week . It was disposed off with remark that it is under examination .Groevance no DDSEW/E/2016/01050.Request suggest remedy.with due regards
Sir, dealing with this unwarranted delay as advised by you should be the first logical step for all premature retirees.
But the matter should not end there.
What about the retirees who had actually put in the full service (with weightage)? Should their pre OROP pensions not be increased proportionally above the pension for minimum pay for rank in pay-band level keeping in view that same work should receive the same remuneration?
I understand some such legal cases are already in the pipeline.
Filed the grievance on PMO site today.Sir I believe You are the member of advisory committee to the defence minister ?Sure we can request you to use your good offices to get the needful done.Thanks
Please see Brig VidyaSagar's letter to RM at http://tsewa.coolfauzi.com/Blog.aspx?entryID=259(press the preview button on the top row second left there) I do feel happy that my multimedia/rich text blog software(commercial) is used by an ESM organization,to help the ESM personnel
There's an easier way to access those kind of letters by a simple click, like on this hyperlink to that Group Message. Beats pressing preview buttons and counting rows.
They used to have a blog that could actually be navigated and the content read but I think they've migrated to a web-site now. That too can be navigated, if I remember correctly.
Respected Brig, even after relinquishment of uniform try to be fair now at least. While commenting, comment about JCO/OR also, how much loss they incurring.
Jco/ors r non-entity 4 most offrs. Some say that if pmr veterans r given benefits of delinking 33yrs, those who receive full pension will b done with injustice! Mod is well-wisher 2 such an extent? If d SC grants that why should de worry about? Der pension is not reduced while affected party's concern is redressed! This will help inspire more pmr cases to keep d forces young and free from oldies!
@Jogen Lekharu : How does removal of pro-rata reduction make anyone or any group of ranks "non-entities"?
I've read some weird things on blogs and chat forums, but this one sets a new standard.
"Mod is well-wisher 2 such an extent?" Now what manner of Martian or Venusian is that?
Cases have already been filed to get pensions on basis of increments and not at minimum of pay-scale. Personnel who have served more than bare minimum pensionable service would get higher pensions than pre-quitters. Veterans should feel happy if such a thing happens, and there should be no need to try and search for manufactured grievances to match bad states of mind.
I have tried to register my grievance exactly the way advised. However, as soon as I press POST, the text in the grievance space just disappears. Hence unable to post grievance
There is an article in Tribune today which states that RM has agreed to the recommendations of advisory committee and MOD will not go for extra litigations by challenging every high/Supeme court verdict.But what do we do if MOD does not implement SC orders as in 33yrs QF for full pension case.Request Maj Navdeep to put this point in next interaction with MOD.As it he is doing tremendous help for ESM.
I had filed under public grievance last week . It was disposed off with remark that it is under examination .Groevance no DDSEW/E/2016/01050.Request suggest remedy.with due regards
ReplyDeletePlease file on the PMO website. It is understood that Def Secy has to give reasons for delays.
ReplyDeleteSir, dealing with this unwarranted delay as advised by you should be the first logical step for all premature retirees.
ReplyDeleteBut the matter should not end there.
What about the retirees who had actually put in the full service (with weightage)? Should their pre OROP pensions not be increased proportionally above the pension for minimum pay for rank in pay-band level keeping in view that same work should receive the same remuneration?
I understand some such legal cases are already in the pipeline.
Sir, You have a question to be answered? The question is not of delay but of restoration.
DeleteSir, you are quite wrong.
DeleteYou need to read contents of a blog post and comments thereon thoroughly before coming to conclusions.
There is no question of any restoration. There is also no question of a delay.
There is a delay.
The blog post is about how to be deal with that.
Filed the grievance on PMO site today.Sir I believe You are the member of advisory committee to the defence minister ?Sure we can request you to use your good offices to get the needful done.Thanks
ReplyDeleteIt is Brig Vidyasagar's suggestion to JS DESW. Nothing more heard till now.
ReplyDeleteAlso IESL is taking it up on 1.8.16 with JS DESW and on 4.8.16 with Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence.
Please see Brig VidyaSagar's letter to RM at http://tsewa.coolfauzi.com/Blog.aspx?entryID=259(press the preview button on the top row second left there)
ReplyDeleteI do feel happy that my multimedia/rich text blog software(commercial) is used by an ESM organization,to help the ESM personnel
There's an easier way to access those kind of letters by a simple click, like on this hyperlink to that Group Message. Beats pressing preview buttons and counting rows.
DeleteThey used to have a blog that could actually be navigated and the content read but I think they've migrated to a web-site now. That too can be navigated, if I remember correctly.
Respected Brig, even after relinquishment of uniform try to be fair now at least. While commenting, comment about JCO/OR also, how much loss they incurring.
ReplyDeleteI am not understanding the reason for the delay in isuue of the circular only for Defence pensioners.
ReplyDeleteJco/ors r non-entity 4 most offrs. Some say that if pmr veterans r given benefits of delinking 33yrs, those who receive full pension will b done with injustice! Mod is well-wisher 2 such an extent? If d SC grants that why should de worry about? Der pension is not reduced while affected party's concern is redressed! This will help inspire more pmr cases to keep d forces young and free from oldies!
ReplyDelete@Jogen Lekharu : How does removal of pro-rata reduction make anyone or any group of ranks "non-entities"?
DeleteI've read some weird things on blogs and chat forums, but this one sets a new standard.
"Mod is well-wisher 2 such an extent?" Now what manner of Martian or Venusian is that?
Cases have already been filed to get pensions on basis of increments and not at minimum of pay-scale. Personnel who have served more than bare minimum pensionable service would get higher pensions than pre-quitters. Veterans should feel happy if such a thing happens, and there should be no need to try and search for manufactured grievances to match bad states of mind.
I have tried to register my grievance exactly the way advised. However, as soon as I press POST, the text in the grievance space just disappears. Hence unable to post grievance
ReplyDeleteThere is an article in Tribune today which states that RM has agreed to the recommendations of advisory committee and MOD will not go for extra litigations by challenging every high/Supeme court verdict.But what do we do if MOD does not implement SC orders as in 33yrs QF for full pension case.Request Maj Navdeep to put this point in next interaction with MOD.As it he is doing tremendous help for ESM.
ReplyDeleteOrders have been issued on 30 September by DESW Congrats to all
ReplyDelete