Friday 4 September 2015

OROP - Sgts and Cpls and Equivalents - restoring after hacking



Please also refer to tables in the PCDA (P) Circulars No. 501 & 502 and notes therein which are reproduced below for ready reference: -
1.       The qualifying service shown in Col No. 1 is actual qualifying service (i.e. the actual QS for which pension has been sanctioned), the amount of revised pension indicated against is inclusive of rank weightage.
2.      Any rank granted ACP-I will be eligible for pension of next higher rank & ACP-II will be eligible for further next higher rank of ACP-I.

3.       Where revised pension for junior rank is higher than senior rank for the same group and qualifying service, pension of senior rank has been stepped up to the level of the pension for junior rank.

4.      The rates of pension above terms of engagement are in respect of those who were retained in service compulsorily beyond their engagements during emergency period.

Naik/Leading Seaman/Corporal

Pre-06 retirees


QS
Pay in PB
Grade
Pay
MSP
Incre
Total
Pension
Modified
Parity
1.1.2006
6
7490
2400
2000
300
11890
5945
3200
1.1.2007
7
7790
310
12190
6095
3399
1.1.2008
8
8100
320
12500
6250
3599
1.1.2009
9
8420
330
12820
6410
3799
1.1.2010
10
8750
340
13150
6575
3999
1.1.2011
11
9090
350
13490
6745
4199
1.1.2012
12
9440
360
13840
6920
4399
1.1.2013
13
9800
370
14200
7100
4599
1.1.2014
14
10170
380
14570
7285
4799
1.1.2015
15
10550
390
14950
7475
4999
1.1.2016
16
10940
400
15340
7670
5199
1.1.2017
17
11340
420'
15740
7870
5399
1.1.2018
18
11760
430
16160
8080
5599'
1.1.2019
19
12190
440
16590
8295
5799
1.1.2o20
20
126301
450
17030
8515
5999
1.1.2021
21
13080
470
17480
8740
6199
 1.1.2022
22
13550
480
17950
8975
6599


Post 1.1.2006



QS
Pay in PB
Grade
Pay
MSP
Incre
Total
Pension
Modified
Parity
1-Jan-11
6
7650
2400
2000
290
11650
5825
3200
1-Jan-12
7
7940
300
11940
5970
3399
1-Jan-13
8
8240
310
12240
6120
3599
1-Jan-14
9
8550
320
12550
6275
3799
1-Jan-15
10
8870
330
12870
6435
3999
1-Jan-16
11
9200
340
13200
6600
4199
1-Jan-17
12
9540
350
13540
6770
4399
1-Jan-18
13
9890
360
13890
6945
4599
1-Jan-19
14
10250
370
14250
7125
4799
1-Jan-20
15
10620
380
14620
7310
4999
1-Jan-21
16
11000
390
15000
7500
5199
1-Jan-22
17
11390
410
15390
7695
5399
1-Jan-23
18
11800
420
15800
7900
5599
1-Jan-24
19
12220
430
16220
8110
5799
1-Jan-25
20
12650
440
16650
8325
5999
1-Jan-26
21
13090
460
17090
8545
6199
1-Jan-27
22
13550
470
17550
8775
6599

Havildar/Petty Officer/Sergeant


QS
Pay in PB
Grade
Pay
MSP
Incre
Total
Pension
Modified
Parity
1.1.2006
14
8040








2800








2000
330
12840
6420
5203
1.1.2007
15
8370
340
13170
6585
5440
1.1.2008
16
8710
350
13510
6755
5676
1.1.2009
17
9060
360
13860
6930
5913
1.1.2010
18
9420
370
14220
7110
6149
1.1.2011
19
9790
380
14590
7295
6386
1.1.2012
20
10170
390
14970
7485
6622
1.1.2013
21
10560
400
15360
7680
6859
1.1.2014
22
10960
420
15760
788-
6859
1.1.2015
23
11380
430
16180
8090
7332
1.1.2016
24
11810
440
16610
8305
7568
1.1.2017
25
12250
460
17050
8525
7568
1.1.2018
26
12710
470
17510
8755
7568
1.1.2019
27
13180
480
17980
8990
7568
1.1.2020
28
13660
500
18460
9230
7568



QS
Pay in PB
Grade
Pay
MSP
Incre
Total
Pension
Modified
Parity
1.1.2011
14
9040






2800






2000
360
13480
6920
5203
1.1.2015
15
9400
370
14200
7100
5440
1.1.2016
16
9770
380
14570
7285
5676
1.1.2017
17
10150
390
14950
7475
5913
1.1.2018
18
10540
400
15340
7670
6149
1.1.2019
19
10940
420
15740
7870
6386
1.1.2020
20
11360
430
16160
8080
6622
1.1.2021
21
11790
440
16590
8295
6859
1.1.2022
22
12230
450
17030
8515
7095
1.1.2023
23
12680
470
17480
8740
7332
1.1.2024
24
13150
480
17950
8975
7568
1.1.2025
25
13630
500
18430
9215
7568
1.1.2026
26
14130
510
18930
9465
7568
1.1.2017
27
14640
530
19440
9720
7568
1.1.2018
28
15170
540
19970
9985
7568


Notes: - In the case of Sgt & equivalents, the current retirees are drawing higher last pay drawn, consequently higher pension than the top of the scale based pension.

However, the senior in the upper table will get higher pay and pension than all juniors who are promoted to this rank at a later date.

Thus, once pay is re-set on a date, say 01 Apr 2014, then there will not be any change in pension of this rank till the next pay commission

11 comments:

  1. VRS means that a person is given a financial package as a means to encourage him/her to leave the job. In services you do not get a paisa more if you are leaving early i.e. after completing terms of engagement.You just get proportionate share of your gratuity (all other benefits like insurance, provident fund and leave are your own savings). On the contrary you get less pension as you are leaving when your salary is low. Most persons leave because they have pressing family issues to take care, have disability/health issues, have no promotion prospects in service, have been overlooked for promotion or are simply tired of 24X7 commitments in stations where they can not look after their familes. In army at least I have seen a minuscule percentage leaving early because they have employment outside. This exit route also keeps the services young. Earlier we had a clause that those going on voluntary retirement were not being given disability benefits. This clause (if true) in the OROP will be a retrograde step. Hope wiser sense prevails (but then wiser sense is a very rare commodity when the egos of politicians and bureaucrats are involved). Mr Jaitley and team has achieved what Pak could not do in decades. Jai Hind.

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  2. Sir,
    Please refer to the statement made in press conference on 05 Sep 15 the defence min has declared OROP and said that they will be spending approximately 10 to 12 thousand crores in implementing OROP. Can we ask for the calculations made by the Defence ministry for reaching the figure of 10,000 crores to 12,000 crores? I am asking this as i donot know exactly what can be asked in RTI.

    Regards

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  3. Sir, As now the pensions under OROP have been defined as pensions "paid" in base year, some of the pensions listed in these tables may be used as part of the calculation for averaging OROP pensions thus severely limiting the increase in OROP for any category of pre 2006 pensioner. Your views could dispel a lot of uncertainty. https://goo.gl/819RVg

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    1. sunlit sir..as per your comment "some of the pensions listed in these tables may be used as part of the calculation for averaging OROP pensions"
      your point is not clear if u pl elaborate it ...

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    2. @JUSTIN: The statement by Hon'ble RM and its implications have been discussed in my blog post linked to in my previous comment.

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  4. @Justin, your comment was edited because allegations are as repugnant as baseless allegations. You may wish to confirm how the pay transition was carried out from 5th to 6th CPC in MoD No. 17 (4)/2008(2)/D (Pen/Policy) dated 12.11.2008 and find out the truth.

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    1. Respected sir..... with reference to your comment i present my views as..
      1) as far as your blog activity and image is considered your presentations are very useful and befitting your blog slogan" Being Informed is the Best Weapon." and u r a very highly respected person.
      2). i will not engage my self in any point scoring tactics and offer my apology if it has belittle your blog's image...
      3) in the context of the blog post the edited comment points REPRESENTED were w.r.t. or only..
      4) being myself a x sgt i feel hurt (and it is the general feeling among same placed sgts)at downgrading of status bcz of placed in pb-1,the basic 6 cpc pension r short fixed as and when the pensions r revised due consideration was not given to rank structure and again the .recent pre-2006 cir issued by mod for re fixation pensions of OR the cgda has taken wrong weightages there by wrongly MGP r fixed...
      with rgds...

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    2. Sir, please file a RTI requesting CGDA to provide information on the methodology and parameters utilised to prepare the tables that are causing anguish. A reply will have to be provided within 30 days and that would either set to rest your doubts or give cause for CGDA to take a second look at their work.

      As Sgts for being placed in Pay Band 1, the next pay commission's recommendations are almost on us let us see if any improvement will be made.

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  5. @Justin, while you are at it you may also wish to read Para 2 and 3 of MoD ID No. 1(13)/2012/D (Pen/Policy) dated 17.1.2013.

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  6. Sir please recall the statement made by the FM that ORs need to be paid higher pension,I feel that govt may grant them a higher % of pension on Last Drawn Pay.

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